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		<title>By: Robert Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.christianpf.com/tithing-money-back-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-13534</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...also... using the fact that a very small percentage asked for their money back borders on disingenuous at best. Few people would go to a pastor and ask for their money back.

The New Testament says to give what you decide to give, WITHOUT COMPULSION, for God loves a cheerful giver.

The church should have faith that God will provide for its needs, without coming up with gimmicks and other methods of compulsion to motivate the congregation to give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;also&#8230; using the fact that a very small percentage asked for their money back borders on disingenuous at best. Few people would go to a pastor and ask for their money back.</p>
<p>The New Testament says to give what you decide to give, WITHOUT COMPULSION, for God loves a cheerful giver.</p>
<p>The church should have faith that God will provide for its needs, without coming up with gimmicks and other methods of compulsion to motivate the congregation to give.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read &quot;David&#039;s&quot; response and I agree wholeheartedly with him. You don&#039;t give, expecting something in return.
Jesus put Judas in charge of the money... an indicator of what money meant to Jesus. &quot;The poor should be proud of their high position.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read &#8220;David&#8217;s&#8221; response and I agree wholeheartedly with him. You don&#8217;t give, expecting something in return.<br />
Jesus put Judas in charge of the money&#8230; an indicator of what money meant to Jesus. &#8220;The poor should be proud of their high position.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we have stopped tithing since march and things are getting better. Now we just &quot;joyfully give&quot; when we can. Before we would tithe when we couldn&#039;t afford it and it always got us in trouble with our bank.  I would get so upset when people said &quot;tithe and God will bless you&quot; because it seemed to be the opposite for us. The more we would tithe, the worse our month was. Now if we don&#039;t have extra money to give God we give him our time instead and volunteer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we have stopped tithing since march and things are getting better. Now we just &#8220;joyfully give&#8221; when we can. Before we would tithe when we couldn&#8217;t afford it and it always got us in trouble with our bank.  I would get so upset when people said &#8220;tithe and God will bless you&#8221; because it seemed to be the opposite for us. The more we would tithe, the worse our month was. Now if we don&#8217;t have extra money to give God we give him our time instead and volunteer.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.christianpf.com/tithing-money-back-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-12565</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to tell you that the Word of God cant be picked and pulled from and taken out of context. The whole Word is Gods will, every single verse. I disagree with the fact that tithing was Just for Isreal in the old testament. Jesus himself says in the new testament to &quot;give to cesar what is ceasars and to God what is Gods.&quot; We all need to look at our finances, spouses, kids, and jobs as Gods and that we are just stewards over them. Getting that mindset allowed me to see that if God asks for 10% of 100% and its his anyway, give it back to him and he will bless you! I have been blessed with food when i had none in my fridge as well as gas in my tank and all i did was give God what was already His! Tithing works and in this economy you CANT AFFORD NOT TO TITHE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to tell you that the Word of God cant be picked and pulled from and taken out of context. The whole Word is Gods will, every single verse. I disagree with the fact that tithing was Just for Isreal in the old testament. Jesus himself says in the new testament to &#8220;give to cesar what is ceasars and to God what is Gods.&#8221; We all need to look at our finances, spouses, kids, and jobs as Gods and that we are just stewards over them. Getting that mindset allowed me to see that if God asks for 10% of 100% and its his anyway, give it back to him and he will bless you! I have been blessed with food when i had none in my fridge as well as gas in my tank and all i did was give God what was already His! Tithing works and in this economy you CANT AFFORD NOT TO TITHE!</p>
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		<title>By: Lanaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lanaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...the Pastor Tithes to his church but does the church Tithe? Our Pastors&#039; tithe to our church and then Tithe to there church overseers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;the Pastor Tithes to his church but does the church Tithe? Our Pastors&#8217; tithe to our church and then Tithe to there church overseers.</p>
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		<title>By: john baxter</title>
		<link>http://www.christianpf.com/tithing-money-back-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-11037</link>
		<dc:creator>john baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who would ever ask for their tithe back? That sounds ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who would ever ask for their tithe back? That sounds ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Tanksley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wm Tanksley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, that&#039;ll be a tough one to find; I can&#039;t think of any three-year business cycles in the Law, and the New Testament doesn&#039;t cover any of that. It&#039;s possible that you&#039;re thinking of the 7-year Jubilee cycle, but that applies only to native Jews (born and converted) in the Land; it doesn&#039;t apply outside of that, nor does it apply to gentiles sojourning in the Land, even worshipers of God.

You can make this part of the Law apply to you by converting to Judaism; you may be able to find a messianic rabbi willing to discuss that (I wouldn&#039;t know). I think Paul warned against this, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, that&#8217;ll be a tough one to find; I can&#8217;t think of any three-year business cycles in the Law, and the New Testament doesn&#8217;t cover any of that. It&#8217;s possible that you&#8217;re thinking of the 7-year Jubilee cycle, but that applies only to native Jews (born and converted) in the Land; it doesn&#8217;t apply outside of that, nor does it apply to gentiles sojourning in the Land, even worshipers of God.</p>
<p>You can make this part of the Law apply to you by converting to Judaism; you may be able to find a messianic rabbi willing to discuss that (I wouldn&#8217;t know). I think Paul warned against this, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I&#039;ve been battling to find a Bible text where it says we have to write off debt in our third year of business. I read this text by accident a year ago and it has always stuck in my mind. As I have a business and would like to obey Him when He gives me an instruction, it would be wonderful if someone could perhaps point me in the right direction? I need to make sure I&#039;m doing the right thing, and understanding the text correctly.
Any advice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I&#8217;ve been battling to find a Bible text where it says we have to write off debt in our third year of business. I read this text by accident a year ago and it has always stuck in my mind. As I have a business and would like to obey Him when He gives me an instruction, it would be wonderful if someone could perhaps point me in the right direction? I need to make sure I&#8217;m doing the right thing, and understanding the text correctly.<br />
Any advice?</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Tanksley</title>
		<link>http://www.christianpf.com/tithing-money-back-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-10534</link>
		<dc:creator>Wm Tanksley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steph, I&#039;m very sorry to hear that you&#039;re having financial difficulties. The first thing I&#039;d think of is that one of the most worked-out topics in the New Testament on the subject of the Church is how it&#039;s supposed to help people who are having financial problems.

If you&#039;re having financial problems, your church should be 100% willing to help you, since you&#039;ve obviously been a faithful member. If they do not help you, they should counsel you (in order to explain what they think you&#039;re doing wrong). If they do neither, you need to help your church change so that it will become obedient to the Scriptures -- possibly by switching churches.

Kent Irwin above has some great specific suggestions. Who knows -- perhaps in the process of finding help for yourself you&#039;ll be a blessing to your church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steph, I&#8217;m very sorry to hear that you&#8217;re having financial difficulties. The first thing I&#8217;d think of is that one of the most worked-out topics in the New Testament on the subject of the Church is how it&#8217;s supposed to help people who are having financial problems.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re having financial problems, your church should be 100% willing to help you, since you&#8217;ve obviously been a faithful member. If they do not help you, they should counsel you (in order to explain what they think you&#8217;re doing wrong). If they do neither, you need to help your church change so that it will become obedient to the Scriptures &#8212; possibly by switching churches.</p>
<p>Kent Irwin above has some great specific suggestions. Who knows &#8212; perhaps in the process of finding help for yourself you&#8217;ll be a blessing to your church.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Irwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Irwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steph,
As someone who counsels people at our church in our financial ministry, and am a planner as well, I can relate to your story on many levels. Tithing and wise personal financial managment work hand in hand. I suggest, if you havn&#039;t already, organize your financial affairs, complete a financial fact-finder, and arrange to meet with someone who can look over your situation. Someone who is perhaps a trusted Christian experienced financial professional friend or advisor of yours (CPA, CFP) or a CROWN budget counselor, if you church has them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steph,<br />
As someone who counsels people at our church in our financial ministry, and am a planner as well, I can relate to your story on many levels. Tithing and wise personal financial managment work hand in hand. I suggest, if you havn&#8217;t already, organize your financial affairs, complete a financial fact-finder, and arrange to meet with someone who can look over your situation. Someone who is perhaps a trusted Christian experienced financial professional friend or advisor of yours (CPA, CFP) or a CROWN budget counselor, if you church has them.</p>
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